A Messianic Jew Explains the Holy Trinity

Dr. Michael L. Brown a messianic jew and founder of ICN Ministries explained the Trinity.Watch the other video's of Dr. Brown on http://video.google.com/videos... also the serie "Countering the Counter-Missionaries" by Dr. Michael L. Brown: http://video.google.com/videos...

Canal: People & Blogs
Añadido: December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm
Autor: al7qq

Duración: 08:25
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Etiquetas: Brown for God haMashiach haShem icn Jesus Jew Jews Messiah Messianic Michael ministries Trinity Yahweh Yeshua

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Enes007 (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

It sounds very interesting. Now I am very curious, I myself is a Muslim but have never heard that allegation before. With a little argument or evidence could you maybe supply with.

condorito29 (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

Obviously, Jews and Muslims will NEVER admit this so long as they remain Jews and Muslims.To do so, would be to give intellectual credence to the Christian idea of the multi-personed God, and no Jew or Muslim wants to do that.But the reality is that Jews and Muslims already DE FACTO believe in a multi-"personed" God.Two persons, to be exact.

condorito29 (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

Whether you like it or not, Jews and Muslims ALREADY believe in a two personed God.Not a God of two distinct beings, but ONE God, with two manifestations.God who is outside this universe, is God the Father. The spirit of God IN the Universe MUST also BE God. (again, since WHEN are spirits NOT synonymous with their source?).NEITHER aspect of God is the WHOLE thing.Thus, to explain the WHOLE of God, you are forced in the direction of a DIUNITY (two personed being).

condorito29 (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

We KNOW God reaches more people than us.We KNOW God's spirit is what sustains the earth, and Life itself.We KNOW that God is also OUTSIDE of this universe, and that this spirit emanates from THIS source (what christians call the "Father").Can we SEE this? NO, but we DO know that it exists through scripture.Christians believe that there is ANOTHER aspect of the deity. One which existed in History itself (but who is also God, and as such, also OUTSIDE history).

condorito29 (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

As far as the Trinity is concerned:Look at it this way.A blind man touches the leg of an elephant?Does he touch the WHOLE elephant? No.Is he entitled to believe that the part of the elephant he touches is the WHOLE elephant?Maybe, he's blind after all.But we aren't speaking of elephants here. We are speaking of God.We KNOW that the spirit of God which reaches us, CANNOT be its entirety.The TRINITY is a set of concepts christians use to explain the ENTIRE reality of God.

condorito29 (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

WRONG:I do NOT suggest that every jewish kid named emanuel is automatically God, or the Messiah.What I am saying is this:When the Bible refers to the messiah as "emmanuel", it is the MEANING of the name that's important, NOT the name itself.There are lots of jewish kids named emanuel, but only ONE figure in history literally IS "God with us", or, if you like "with us is God" (which is the same thing).JESUS.The "emanuel" prophecy is a prophecy of the messiah's DIVINITY.

condorito29 (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

you are right.If "person" was synonymous with "being", then christians who say God has three persons, are espousing a logical contradiction.When looked from the proper Greek perspective of "person", the "contradictions" melt away, and reveal a coherent, sublime view of the deity.

condorito29 (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

Again, "person" and "being" are NOT interchangeable in their strict philosophical sense.You believe that God exists in heaven, outside this universe.You ALSO believe that his spirit is here on earth. You ALSO believe that the Spirit of God, IS God. (since when are spirits NOT synonymous with their source?)So right off the bat, you believe in a God of TWO manifestations.Christians call that: "persons", but its the GREEK understanding, not the modern day common one.

condorito29 (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

Correction:You believe one BEING is God, and that God is omnipresent."Person", and "being" are used interchangeably in daily life, but they are actually NOT synonymous."Person", comes from the Greek word, "persona", which was the mask actors wore in the plays.Thus, when christians speak of a three-personed God, it is of a God with three MANIFESTATIONS.These manifestations are how God appears to YOU, not how God is in his ENTIRETY.NO ONE can see the whole of God.That's impossible.

Sorry2BurstYou (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

I find Messianics to be the most arrogant of all religions now. They think they are without exception right in everything they do. Ive come across a few that only spend time putting down Catholicism and Christianity. Thus, they do things like steal, cheat and lie without any hesitation or remorse because they think they are so special to God that it is ok. In my video you will find a prime example:watch?v=QNGh3YUGNxw