iplaytehbasspipes (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

well in that case the shamisen could very well have been Mongolian, as Kublai Khan and his family ruled China during that period of time and influenced the arts community heavily

GuillaumeDrolet (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

I've got an idea, how about we don't care if it's japanese, chinese, french or italian pizza! It's music and let's just enjoy it as what it is!Some other people don't and that's ok. That's why every person has different tastes.

Shaguar97 (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

Huy!

QianHanXiongShou (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

Ni hao?It was very nice talking to you,Terradi.Xie Xie Ni

QianHanXiongShou (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

Can u name 1thing the Chinese got from Japan in ancient times?Lets say,Japan learns how to make one pizza.They teach their method.Students travel around JAPAN 2 improve skills coz they think Japan invented it.They learn little,only 1 variation.U right,Italy is China in your example.Sanxian,the original pizza learnt.Italy has more variety & can absorb other variations coz they invented it.America can only copy and change.Italy is best.Credit must go to Italy\China,DIPSHIT!

Allusion823 (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

Terra is right you know. The instrument originally came from Japan. Nearing Asian countries sought their way into acquiring the instrument over time, such as this. The Japanese invaded China once a upon a time. Hm. Oh wait..Now how did the chinese get a hold of Japanese culture. Perhaps it's because there's a lot of influence going around. Your argument is like saying Pizza came from America when it's clearly Italian. Get your fact straight dipshit.

terradi (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

^^ I'm not a musician, nor an expert on Asian music, otherwise I'd draw more similar comparisons. Sticking to art: if I decide to become a mangaka and make my own manga they won't be Japanese any more than I am. I'm not suggesting for a moment that the Shamisen is superior to the Sanxian. Just that it is different. Sorry, but I think I'm about as unlikely to convince you as you are to convince me that this is different.

QianHanXiongShou (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

It's a modified Chinese instrument,but its still fundamentally Chinese because the core things which make it a Chinese instrument remained unmodified :-)

QianHanXiongShou (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

The principles u speak of r not applicable in this case.Some say they perfected the things they modified.Perfection suggests it can't be improved,yet it can;therefore it's not a perfection.This music is not a perfection or better.I want you,as a non-Japanese,to modify anything, but then call it Japanese ok,coz anything copied and slightly changed is Japanese in your eyes in principle.U analysis superficially based on random examples.

terradi (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

Well consider this as well: In regards to technology Japan took a lot of Western inventions and innovations, copied them, then figured out how to make them better, or better suited for their people anyways. Japan has been considered an innovator in technology for a long time. Their achievements in that area are solely theirs. That does not mean that we have no merits of our own. Else, by using English to type all of this, we'd both be Englishmen.